From - Tue Aug 14 21:05:19 2001 Message-ID: <3B7939C7.A6A06013@clark.net> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:46:31 -0400 From: Tiny Human Ferret Reply-To: klaatu@clark.net Organization: copyright 2001 all rights reserved -- non-UseNet transmission prohibited. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.gothic Subject: Re: Clicking your fingers for a gothic twilight References: <3B6FF423.2B1C309E@igalaxy.net> <3B70C8E3.D27ADB19@igalaxy.net> <3B7355B3.1E7F8877@igalaxy.net> <3B74D3F3.5139F1D2@igalaxy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.205.1.226 X-Trace: vienna7.his.com 997800395 65.205.1.226 (14 Aug 2001 10:46:35 -0400) Lines: 71 X-Authenticated-User: tjh22isp Path: vienna7.his.com Xref: vienna7.his.com alt.gothic:807132 IHCOYC XPICTOC wrote: > > Again, I ask you: do you think that the current government in Washington > is -able- to fight World War II? Could it impose food and gas rationing for > the war effort, and get the overwhelming majority of citizens to comply with > them out of their sense of duty to the nation? > > I don't think it could, not today, not in the world of talk radio and > investigative journalism. Yet we know there once was a government that did. With all due respect, is this a troll aimed at me? I'm not sure. They sat stock still for the last decade as at least 5-millions Invaded, with a peak of about 1.5 to 2.2 millions entering the country illegally in 1999/2000. If the present roughly 9 millions of illegal aliens openly revolted, the military couldn't do fuckall, and the American people would probably cut their own numbers in half in a major civil war over whether or not to suppress the revolt, with the organizers of the revolt exploiting both sides each against the other, exactly as is being done in the ongoing propaganda war and the extended low-intensity conflict in the cities and suburbs. The average citizen, were even a legitimate Militia organized with due process of law and under color of State Constitutional authority on the mobilizing orders to sheriffs by the justices of the Peace, would go out of their way to impede the sheriff's deputies and the legitimate unorganizes Militia, so deeply have they been prepared and conditioned by the mainstream media. The average citizen would under no circumstances fight to defend the homeland from any enemy that had made it inside the borders. The Military is incompetent to prosecute any form of war taking place within the US borders or even to take a battle into Mexico or Canada, even with the blessings of those respective governments which would of course not be orthcoming under any circumstances whatsoever. The Military, to be brief, is competent to deliver massive force through a very broad spectrum of response, so long as it is delivered outside of North America. But if my vanishing fellow citizens and permanent resident aliens and the massively increasing numbers of illegal aliens here in Maryland -- right outside the District line -- are a representative sampling, there's absolutely no question in my mind that the average American would far rather surrender to blatant Occupation rather than have their minivan repossessed or have their payment schedules disturbed. The people that the locals call "inbred yokels agitating in the hinterlands" might fight, but they'd be fighting against a general populace of brain-dead couch-potatos, conditioned to only fight the loyalists by totally controlled media machine that would not for a moment stop pumping out feel-good propaganda, without even any change in on-air staff no matter how many times the station changed hands. Win WWIII? not a problem as long as it's overseas and doesn't escalate into Mutual Assured Destruction scenarios. Lose WWIII? anytime it occurs on northamerican soil. I'll put it this way, Canada would probably fight, win or lose, in NA or overseas. Mexico's so under-equipped and generally poor that they could contribute personnel but that's about it. But the US is so culurally fragmented and media-controlled that anything worth escalating to the level of WWIII over, that's probably more likely to just further balkanize the US until it was more busy fighting itself than fighting anyone else. and I strongly suspect that the rest of the world applauds this. -- Be kind to your neighbors, even though they be transgenic chimerae. Whom thou'st vex'd waxeth wroth: Meow. <-----> http://earthops.net/klaatu/